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Post by Sindder Streg on Feb 3, 2016 15:22:11 GMT
2/3/16 6:50am 30 minute meditation
Feel pretty good this morning. Got 8 hours of sleep. Back kind of sore.
Concentration terrible. Lowest spinal muscles sore. Whole time was spent working those. Seconds of concentrated effort.
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Post by Sindder Streg on Feb 4, 2016 2:45:05 GMT
12:30pm - 2 Minute Meditation At home alone - in silence! Goal was to access 'access concentration' and stay with it two minutes. Timed on my watch. I've found I can access 'access concentration' at will. How long I can continue it is a matter of ongoing experimentation.
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Post by Sindder Streg on Feb 4, 2016 2:46:43 GMT
8:40pm - 40 minute Meditation
I found meditation itself really interesting tonight. Part of this process is learning what I can do.
Started and went into access concentration. Went into then what my mind wanted to go to. I recognized this as a Pure Land state. It feels like the top is opened up in the middle of the brain. PL4. Really great, chill for a bit. Then came back down to realize I've got to control these things. This was a great confidence builder but I must determine my own state. I own my emotions, they do not own me.
I came out of it and went back to just sitting. I slowly dropped my attention into my body around the pelvis. This drop began the process of deep relaxation. Although I didn't know this at the time. I knew I was going back to basics. So I sank, sank and once I felt sunk I switched my attention to my breathing. I started slowing my breath. Again unbeknownst to me at the time. I drew in breath to a point around my navel while straightening up my posture. Then when I was straight and my breathing muscles were taut, I took a massive inhale until all of my parts were full, every cell I could muster, sucked up with oxygen. Then out. Out, out, out, deeper deeper, releasing air until my fingers were moving automatically searching for some air. Then suck in and I began a process of consciously slowing my breath. Slower and slower. When I relaxed a bit I started rhythmic breathing. Started with a 5 count in, hold 5, out 5, hold 5. After a few I switched to 4. Then I tried to find a rhythm but I sped up too much and got out of it. Just relaxing, sitting, reflecting on my process until the end.
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Post by Sindder Streg on Feb 4, 2016 12:32:22 GMT
2:55am - 20 Minute Meditation
Sat sieza. Began with posture as object. Could feel the access concentration. I can see why it's said to not make access concentration a 'goal' of practice; because it comes naturally with absorption. (It's like, and is, being in a concentrated state, in a bubble where you're so concentrated that things around are experienced but are not really registered consciously because you're focused. Anyone would know this feeling if it was pointed out to them.) After stability was gained, shortly, I switched to slowing my breath in preparation of rhythmic breathing. I did a 4 second count. I could hear my new analog watch. I went to 5, then 6, 7, and finally getting to 8 seconds: in, hold, out, hold. Square breathing. My feet were much asleep. When timer went off I sat up just on my knees. I felt a dangerous blood loss in my nose and throat area. Like oxygen had been denied. I am not sure if it was a consequence of practice or my legs falling asleep. I will not use that posture again. I only did because my back had not yet awoken and I thought I would struggle in Indian.
In breath control, the time is not important, the rhythm is. So don't go by seconds. Go by what is calming. Actually either technique could be used for different reasons. Research more. Henry, any input?
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Post by Sindder Streg on Feb 4, 2016 12:36:57 GMT
6:35 - 20 Minute Meditation Session
Posture awesome. Breath awesome. Everything awesome!
I started with sinking the posture. This happened quickly. Went to breath. Took massive amounts of air in and held. Blew massive amounts of air out, held. Started with a four count but I was so involved with it I didn't need a reminder. I drank in purity and hope and love and blew out discipline and cleanliness. I was swimming in a sea of purifying breaths. Holding my breath between in and out is absolutely amazing. That's when the purifying and hope and discipline were gathered. Through strength and leadership I guided myself to brand new heights of prana. I restored my oxygen levels with brand new, fresh air and it felt great! Freaking awesome sit!!
I've read pranayama can be dangerous. This I think is true if you have latent issues you haven't dealt with as it brings them up and they can contaminate your mind. You can go crazy from meditation or magick too. This is why I was emphasizing purity and healing and hope and discipline in my breath. Breath does connect to life, and I'm hypothesizing: behavior. I certainly felt wonderful after this. I just wonder about the dangers of altering breath. Probably the same as altering the mind or body. Be kind and all good. Research more. Henry, again any input?
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Post by Sindder Streg on Feb 4, 2016 16:42:41 GMT
So I'm thinking pranayama is as dangerous as I expected. The same as meditation and magick. You just burn yourself out physically or mentally or emotionally or socially. Quotes from four different sources. These thingy's: '[ ]' are my additions. Also, the dangers seem to be connected to Hindu superstition. I've no problem with superstition but they have hoards of diagrams and patterns and info on energy flow and channels and this and that, what the right nostril does and what they left does, and of course, none of this is known by Western science... The second to last article I'm looking at calls their bluff too. So, for now, I'll call Bloody Mary in the mirror and follow Uncle Al Crowley's advice: On overdoing it: And to close. He really was a funny guy. These quotes were taken from his 'Eight Lectures on Yoga'.
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2016 1:46:14 GMT
10 min yoga this morning and a 10 min guitar practice focused on posture and breathing while playing a piece I was trying to brush up on (I've sort of forgotten it over the years)
Sort of weak routine with breathing/meditation proper - I do it a lot during the day as I'm standing still or watching a class or driving; I definitely feel the benefits, but no long range practice to speak of, just sort of maintenance/stress control/self-awareness/self-observation - but I have been waking up between 4:30-5 just to do anything and I get home after 6:30 everyday. Feeling good (not bitter and disappointed in myself for not keeping it up as much as I hoped like I would have felt in the past), so I'm not worried that I'm losing the work I've put into it; in fact I think it's because of the work that I have felt life differently (less fatigued at more work, less reactivity, increased self-awareness when stress does occur or when self-doubt/negative self-talk begins to dominate). I feel patient. Not searching for "IT!", but allowing the experience of being and watching that which I call "myself" just happen and doing what I do because I do it.
Throughout the day and for the last couple of days, I have had nostalgic feelings that remind me of childhood moments (mostly smells and some images) of unquestioned contentment with life in the immediate. Reminds me of early experiences of praying while walking in the woods or trying to meditate and thinking "what, I just think of nothing?!; Is this right? Just think of blackness? Is that 'nothing'?" Makes me feel a little better about who I am becoming because I can tolerate thinking of the early "myself" as one who has become the "me" that is now becoming... [Uuuuuh, huh?] At any rate, "illumination" or not, working hard (at my job and practice(s)) has felt a lot more joyous...
Don't worry Henry... that will change... heh heh heh...
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Post by Sindder Streg on Feb 5, 2016 15:50:05 GMT
10:30pm Lying meditation 10 minutes sink in body Difficult to sink as I normally do it vertically. Nice to just relax for a while. Distracted by thought. But noticed and came back. Felt nice.
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Post by Sindder Streg on Feb 5, 2016 15:51:21 GMT
6:25am - 30 minute meditation session 2 15 min timers. Stay in access concentration for 15. Go to 1st jhana for 15.
Goal worked out pretty well. Mind didn't wander from goal. I did daydream most of the time about Kathleen's and our fight last night and how to address it. Access concentration manifested as being wrapped up in that daydream. At that point I didn't need to be mindful. Now with 1st jhana there was a degree of mindfulness that has to be retained to go into the state at all. It is said 1st jhana rids you of the 5 hindrances: sensual desire, ill will, sloth, restlessness, and doubt. I did feel it and go into immediately. It feels like someone cracked an egg on my stomach chakra and warmness is running through my arms. This lasted only a few seconds but I would try to do it over and over. My guess and plan of attack is this is learning from the jhanas. For instance, toward the end, I forgave Kathleen and instantly was more peaceful. I didn't get back I got the energetic aspect of the jhana but I felt like I was closer. I picked back up the "wrapper" of the judgement and the only recourse was to establish nondual mindfulness. Reminding myself of our nondual nature. If I concentrate on that I perhaps could have picked away at the remaining wrapper of judgement but time ran out.
I am pleased at this session. Two reasons: I did exactly what I planned to do without deviation. And, I established a learning relationship with the jhanas. I don't have to have perfect concentration and mindfulness to enter them but through them I can learn concentration and mindfulness and thusly we will be able to abide together.
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2016 17:13:32 GMT
Indescribably tired this morning. slept until 5:30 so no time for yoga/meditation/practice. Hell of a morning at work, felt wound up and half-conscious. despite this, still could feel a peace nested in myself. knowledge that access to the mindful recognition of an integration of ostensibly disparate objects. Again, noticing a baseline change from earlier life; subtle change, but it's there.
zero desire to even attempt to deepen mindfulness toward a contemplative/meditative state, but after lunch I did anyway for about 1 minute before my class got to the door. sunk in immediately and focused on beginning (arising), during (flow) and ending (cessation) of each breath.
Dealing with the desire to have more time to devote to the practice pretty well. Typing right now with a 1st grade class drawing noisily in art class. Just the phase we are in right now with my job change, but it is still hard to cultivate something as fine as a mindfulness practice - for clarification, my use of the term 'mindfulness' is intended to be used interchangeably with 'meditation' as I treat them both the same. I know you disagree with that, but that's ok. I've had a desire to keep things more simple with my practice because when I let it get too complicated (unless I'm making it complicated for the fun of it which happens regularly), I tend have less control over the degree to which self-doubt/disgust-for-even-trying clouds my effort. Focused on being with being and observing breath (as a convenient object of constant flowing experience) and awareness/consciousness openly and objectively (not being swept away by any of it and calling it all something or at least distinguishing it all - including "the observer" - from "the observer". A practice of attention and patience if nothing else.
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Post by Sindder Streg on Feb 5, 2016 21:16:21 GMT
When you're not trying to get swept away by objects of attention are you saying you don't call them anything or you do? You just let it all go or you say, there's fury, there's embarrassment, etc? If it's a 'being' practice I would imagine you'd let them go. Is that right? Also, I think that mindfulness, while meaning different things to different people- basically, an awareness of what is going on internally or externally, depending how you swing it- is a type of meditation. I did mindfulness differently than you but basically in the same informal style. I did an informal vipassana. Instead of focusing on being- which is awesome that you're seeing results!- I broke down experience into categories and depersonalized it. Sensations, emotion, thought, and action is how I broke experience down. This style produces insights into the nature of being and isn't very good for relaxation. You're style is much more therapeutic, appropriately! I make a hard rule now. It's not meditation for me- for my own use, not other people's- if it doesn't have a definite start and end. I'm doing it ritualistically. I got swept away into thinking I was meditating (and I probably was) but it was all too wishy washy. I like measurable results now. PS - I can't believe the site won't work on your phone.
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Post by Sindder Streg on Feb 6, 2016 3:32:30 GMT
10pm 20 minute concentration on posture
Tired tonight. Not much concentration. Mind wandering, posture wonky. Got my sit in though.
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Post by Admin on Feb 6, 2016 5:00:23 GMT
Answering your question: I don't think I label everything or let everything go. When I am ideally successful, I blend phases of labelling and letting go (blending "name it to tame it" with "radical acceptance"). It is ultimately interesting to me that you are viewing the move from informal to formal as your evolution and progress while my view of personal progress and growth has been the opposite. I am only now becoming comfortable with the informal. Informal in the sense that I feel less pressured by dogma and axiom. At the same time, dogmatism and organized spiritual and practical exercises seem to overlap and give me a wonderful feeling of wholeness; integrating my drive toward the [impossibly inaccessible] infinite with that which one encounters in prosaic life.
My focus on "being" - just to clarify - is a focus on experience/the experiential; the "being this, here and now, and so on..." I don't mean like an ontological pondering of what it is for an object to be; rather, my focus has been the phenomenological event of observing what it is to be. I have enjoyed the freedom and discovery of veering away from hard rules (despite their incredible benefit).
I actually realized I don't even like the term "meditation" for ideological reasons. I'd rather not call it anything at all, but just live while doing it. My ultimate hope is to understand life and me - bracketing "me" is useful to remember the goal of realizing something ultimate in the unity of non-duality, but we mustn't forget the "me" that discovers this absence of "the self". Thinking of dark matter and dark energy in the universe (humor me): dark matter has been compared to the unseen ocean water at night while the visible foam of the breaking waves seem to glisten and shimmer in the moon light - these breaking waves appear to be the only things there are (superficial living). So, the knowledge of the dark water behind/underneath the waves is incredibly useful and awe-inspiring (illumination - connection with that which we previously did not know was there); but there are at least two things we neglect in that important revelation: 1) the ocean depths and inhabitants throughout the entire body of water (living in enlightenment), and 2) the dialectically integrative interplay between the relationship of water and the macro-environment and the relationship of water and micro-environment that makes the water and macro-environment itself (beyond anything that we ever can enlighten ourselves with?). My [current] view is that leaving the door of certainty open will excite the experience of discovery.
I know I'm blabbing now, but that's why I started the forum in the first place; to give myself a masturbatory outlet for intellectual and spiritual impulses...
I want to be careful not to through ritual out the window, however. It is guiding and possibly the only way to truly touch some things.
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Post by Sindder Streg on Feb 6, 2016 13:07:56 GMT
2/6/16 7:40am 20 minutes - Meditation 8 hrs sleep. Still kind of tired. Body going through lots of changes. By the grace of manifestation I still have time to sit, unless I get interrupted. Using an analog watch to gain concentration by watching second hand.
Didn't watch second hand at all except for a brief couple of minutes of pranayama in the middle. It helped gain some energy to muster up a slight bit of concentration on improving posture and give myself a quick etheric scrub in all my limbs and body and head and internal organs. From there I worked on posture until the end. Before all this was dullness.
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Post by Hello me, it's me again on Feb 6, 2016 16:31:25 GMT
Brief yoga preceded and followed by short corpse pose breath concentration. Back has been thrown out for a couple of weeks, so I had to stop quite short of my regular stretching routine. Wanting to find some proper sit time especially since I have been feeling much more comfortable with dropping into depth of attention fast.
Hopefully this guest reply will work so I can keep up with posts - I am enjoying the conversations, just so many thoughts, so little type-time!
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